The Joe Rogan Experience Episode 995 with Jon Ronson

Episode Number: 995
Episode Guest: Jon Ronson
Original Airdate: August 8, 2017
Episode Sponsors: Squarespace, LegalZoom, Onnit

Guest Bio: Jon Ronson is a writer and documentary filmmaker whose works include the best-selling The Men Who Stare at Goats. Check out his new special podcast called The Butterfly Effect with Jon Ronson on Audible.com.

Topics Discussed: His research in the porn world following Fabian Thylmann (PornHub); banks don’t like people in the porn industry; how the porn industry changed from pay to free; there was no bailout for the porn industry; talk about pirated porn on streaming video sites; tech people have created an amoral bubble around themselves; Metropolis movie; porn videos today are named after popular search terms; people only want to see teens and milfs in porn; many porn stars are escorts; Jon’s article on “bespoke porn”; talk about a stamp collector who pays porn stars to destroy his collection on video; more talk about strange bespoke/custom porn videos; radical honesty groups; shame of liking sex/porn; porn stars have to be happy/positive on social media; how people act when anonymous online; virtue signalling; The Black Witch book and fictional racists; So You Think You’ve Been Publically Shamed book; Jon’s been told not to write people of color because it could be seen as cultural appropriation; Trump was elected because people have gone so far left; talk about Trump and his tweeting; Twitter is infecting our culture; Megan Phelps-Roper talk; Jon thinks Twitter is mad at him; Justine Sacco talk; Twitter’s trust and safety council; harassment vs. criticism; women bully men more online; people think there’s good in shaming people; people are mad at Joe and think he’s right wing; (1:00:00) a lot of what Obama did was right wing, but did a lot of left wing things too; Jon talks about trying to work with Alex Jones to investigate the right wing world; is there a connection between Alex Jones and Trump; talk about when Jon was with Alex Jones at Bohemian Grove; The Men Who Stare at Goats book; more talk about the strange Bohemian Grove rituals; Skull and Bones; Alex Jones and Megyn Kelly interview; The Elephant in the Room book; people look for conspiracies everywhere; Alex Jones leaks audio of Megyn Kelly interview; Megyn Kelly said Santa Claus is white on TV; television is an antiquated form of interviewing people; talk about the Alex Jones podcast; Alex has a conspiracy theory template; goats that produce spider silk; Kathy Griffin Trump beheading photo; (Jamie plays some clips of Alex Jones ranting); Trump wanted Glenn Beck to work with him before contacting Alex Jones; Alex is goofy and entertaining and is really smart; Alex uncovered agent provocateurs in the US at the WTO protests; Jon talks about the Ruby Ridge incident and the documentary he made The Legend of Ruby Ridge; Jewish people are both a race and part of a religion; Jon is an atheist; talk about Jon’s book Them: Adventures with Extremists; Alex Jones in the ’90s compared to him now; Joey Diaz goes crazy on Alex Jones’ show video; Alex Jones’ lawsuit with Chobani yogurt; Jon talks about working with remote viewers; Remote Viewers book; Jon talks about writing The Men Who Stare at Goats book; talk about seeing a video where a hamster died from a guy who was staring at it; they watch a video of John and some military guy doing martial arts moves on him(2:00:00) Joe talks about how martial arts demonstrations are a joke; there was a lot of fake martial arts in the 1980s; Joe talks about doing remote viewing for his TV show; Heaven’s Gate religious group; Jon was shown a video of a guy karate chopping a goat; The Men Who Stare at Goats movie; dim mak; MMA fighter fights Tai Chi master video; old man fights MMA fighter video; gay bomb and other crazy military ideas; subliminal messages in videos; Guantanamo Bay would play Fleetwood Mac cover bands to torture prisoners; Joe explains War Machine to Jon; MMA and brain trauma; what type of people are attracted to doing MMA; 110 out of 111 NFL players have CTE; Jon Ronson’s article on Chris Benoit; he loved working with the people in the porn industry; PornHub has sex education for teens; Joe talks about seeing porn in the woods when he was a kid; stories about children who become sex offenders; porn is getting more extreme today; incest porn is one of the most popular subgenres; it’s rare for people who participate in the porn industry to be treated like regular people; Joe talks about how a writer on NewsRadio was writing porn on the side and having sex with porn stars; Joe talks about going to a porn movie set in 1994; why is it so shameful for people to do porn; porn stars are likely to get fired from their jobs after they leave the porn industry because of the internet.


Books Mentioned

These are the books that were mentioned and/or recommended during this episode:

The Men Who Stare At Goats by Ronson, Jon (2012) Paperback

Jon Ronson - Picador - Paperback

$10.49
Sale
The Black Witch (The Black Witch Chronicles)

Laurie Forest - Harlequin Teen - Hardcover: 608 pages

$19.99 - $6.14 $13.85
Sale
So You've Been Publicly Shamed

Jon Ronson - Riverhead Books - Edition no. Reprint (03/29/2016) - Paperback: 336 pages

$16.00 - $5.16 $10.84
Sale
The Elephant in the Room: A Journey into the Trump Campaign and the ‘Alt-Right’

Jon Ronson - Audible Studios on Brilliance Audio - Edition no. MP3 Una (01/31/2017)

$9.99 - $0.02 $9.97
Sale
Them: Adventures with Extremists

Jon Ronson - Simon & Schuster - Edition no. Reprint (01/07/2003) - Paperback: 336 pages

$16.00 - $2.39 $13.61
Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies

Jim Schnabel - Dell - Paperback: 464 pages

$23.00

Movies Mentioned

These are the movies that were mentioned and/or recommended during this episode:

Sale
The Men Who Stare At Goats

Overture Films/Anchor Bay Entertainment (03/23/2010) - DVD, R (Restricted) - Running time: 94 min - George Clooney, Ewan McGregor, Kevin Spacey, Jeff Bridges - English, Spanish

$9.98 - $2.01 $7.97
The Complete Metropolis [Blu-ray]

Kino Lorber films (11/23/2010) - Blu-ray, NR (Not Rated) - Running time: 148 min - Brigitte Helm, Alfred Abel, Gustav Fröhlich, Rudolf Klein-Rogge, Fritz Rasp - English

$23.24

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