The Joe Rogan Experience Episode 904 with Gary Taubes

Episode Number: 904
Episode Guest: Gary Taubes
Original Airdate: January 24, 2017
Episode Sponsors: Squarespace, Onnit, Caveman Coffee

Guest Bio: Gary Taubes is the author of The Case Against Sugar, Why We Get Fat, Good Calories, Bad Calories, and Nobel Dreams.

Topics Discussed: Joe has tried to cut sugar out of his diet; That Sugar Film documentary; how Gary got involved in writing about bad science, and writing about diets and health; DASH diet; salt and high blood pressure; how the dietary fat and heart disease myth came to be; does he feel vindicated now; The Secret Life of Fat book; was he shocked by what he discovered about sugar; talk about doing research before the internet boom; problems with the scientific community; diabetes was almost non-existent in the 19th century; growth in diabetes coincides with the increase in consumption of sugar; talk about the history of sugar in the United States; fruit juice is essentially soda; cereal and sugar; cartoons were a method to sell sugary cereal; types of diabetes; different cultures/races and what they eat; what causes insulin resistance; non-alcoholic fatty liver disease; types of sugar; what push-back he has experienced (1:00:00) when did diabetes first emerge; Joe talks about his diet before he cut out sugar; protein/health food bars are loaded with sugar; a chocolate bar is almost better for you than something like a Lara bar; milk, cheese, and dairy; Joe talks about what he eats on his ketogenic diet; measuring ketones; Joe takes Kegenix products; why you’re hungry an hour after eating Chinese food; how fat fuels the body; athletes and ketogenic diets; The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance book; The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living book; carbs and athletes; sugar is a great performance enhancing drug; sugar is a pain reliever for babies; Gary talks about the metabolism of himself and his brother; how did he feel before he released his findings; Atkins diet talk compared to a calorie-restricted diet; Gary’s friend died from boxing; Gary talks about his amateur boxing fights and getting knocked out; backlash from his findings/writings; responding to his critics; how doctors and scientists responded to him; why the low carb/high fat diet doesn’t work for some people; hormones and fat; women are programmed to gain fat and men are not; three different body types; different bodies process calories/carbohydrates differently; Gary talks about how football players today are bigger; (2:00:00) heavyweight boxers/football players were much smaller compared to the athletes of today; Francis Ngannou; insulin growth factor talk; Gary talks about debating a skeptic about the cause of obesity; time-restricted eating; intermittent fasting; Dr. Stephen Phinney on long-term low-carb diets; Gary talks about trying the ketogenic diet; cardio before eating; people get hungry at different times; do diets fail or do the people who try the diets don’t follow them properly; giving up carbs and sugar will make you healthier; how the internet helps spread information; vegetarians and vegans; eggs.

My Thoughts: Gary gives long-winded, rambling answers, but there’s some good stuff in this episode if you’re interested in diet, sugar, and fat.

Podcast Video: Below is a video of The Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode #904 available for streaming via YouTube.

Podcast Audio: Audio for this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience podcast is available through iTunes, Stitcher, or you can download the MP3 directly to add it to the audio player of your choice.

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