The Joe Rogan Experience Episode 1158 with Chuck Palahniuk

Episode Number: 1158
Episode Guest: Chuck Palahniuk
Original Airdate: August 22, 2018
Episode Sponsors: Cash App, ButcherBox

Guest Bio: Chuck Palahniuk is a novelist and freelance journalist, who describes his work as “transgressional” fiction. He is the author of the award-winning novel Fight Club, Choke, Lullaby, and many others.

Topics Discussed: Joe recounts his mom’s Ambien story; he has a degree in journalism; talk about his writing process and taking elements from real people and writing them into his characters; Fight Club book; there aren’t many stories for men; Dead Poets Society book; the need for men to play rough; finding a secondary father figure; martial arts; we have reward systems that need to be satisfied; An Officer and a Gentleman movie; giving your life to something realizing you won’t live forever; more talk about taking things from real life and working it into his stories; Chuck talks about a writer’s workshop where they couldn’t use certain words; Wild book; censorship in the publishing industry to appeal to the largest audience possible; people consider him a degraded monster; his Guts story; he likes to set “traps” in his books for readers; how much he plans out a book before writing it; Choke book; he goes to the gym when he hits a wall when writing; more talk about going to a writer’s workshop and frightening the other writers; most people want a book to be comforting, but some people don’t; No Country for Old Men movie; books vs. movies; he thinks other mediums are better at storytelling than books; Mermaid Tavern; he writes in notebooks and explains why; he doesn’t record voice notes and transcribe them later; more talk about words or stories that members of his writer’s workshop found disturbing; exploring the deep recesses of people’s minds; Chuck tells a personal story that a fan of his told him about a vibrating heating pad that she used for masturbating as a kid; he wants to create openings for people to tell stories that they never thought they could share with others; Joe tells a story about his daughters loving the bidet; talk about writing content some would find disturbing; more talk about censorship in the writer’s workshop; he ponders whether his goal is to piss off his beta audience; his books are banned in the prison system because they’re too stimulating; Tropic of Cancer book; (1:00:00) the struggle of wanting to write but being limited by your peers; Chuck shares some David Sedaris stories and anecdotes; people getting mad at him on behalf of others; Breakfast at Tiffany’s book; Americans want to see a plain person transformed into a beautiful person; staying away from cheap shots; what it’s like doing comedy today in nightclubs vs. colleges; recreational outrage and virtue signalling; comedy shouldn’t always be punching up or morally uplifting, but it should always be funny regardless of the topic; Chuck recalls an old, dark, disturbing Whoopi Goldberg joke; Heartburn book; people like to see/read about others being transformed because it gives them hope; equality of outcome is absurd; The Great Gatsby book; Chuck is almost broke after someone embezzeled his money; he’s not scared about being poor, he just wants to write books to be happy; people who only have stories about people they know or objects they own or desire; it’s harder to be creative than to accrue objects; more talk about the embezzlement of his money (over $3,000,000) by an accountant; (Chuck goes to the bathroom); the money stolen from him was never recovered and can’t be found; fans of his have offered to kill the guy who ripped him off; he doesn’t really care about losing the money because he hasn’t lost anything he loves; artists losing their hunger; when you’re successful you don’t have time to be bored and think about new ideas; Brad Pitt told Chuck that failure can be a good thing; bombing can be good for a comedian; cognitive reframing; Chuck’s father was murdered; Joe turns the talk back to the censorship of writing; the line “I want to have your abortion” was taken out of the Fight Club movie; the trend of “trigger warnings”; students challenging teachers; Joe explains the Bret Weinstein/Evergreen State University situation; professors are scared of the students today; Chuck talks about an old professor of his; The Paper Chase book; what is causing students to challenge and protest everything they deem offensive; Burning Man compared to Occupy Wall Street; Peter Schiff at Occupy Wall Street video; Occupy Wall Street was kids fighting against something they didn’t even understand; more Burning Man talk; people experimenting with drugs like marijuana or psilocybin is more common today; Chuck lives outside of Portland, Oregon; Chuck is friends with Jim Goad; Chuck thinks he’s a bad person, Joe wants an example of why; Chuck talks about his mother dying and thinking that he’s glad he won’t have to look after her; Chuck is conflicted by the nature of his creativity; Guts story; Chuck puts a friend’s story in his Guts story and the friend won’t talk to him anymore; writing and creating tension; Joe tells a story about having dinner with friends and someone made a racist comment about an interracial baby; (2:00:00) Chuck tells a story about bonding with a driver; someone called a gay person a “fag” in front of Chuck without realizing that Chuck is gay; Joe tells a story about his childhood friend’s dad who hated gay people; older successful people can still have stupid ideas; Chuck reads The Daily Stormer daily and explains why he visits offensive websites; MMA fighters and how they react to trash talk; people can get accustomed to awful things; The Hurt Locker movie; Tribe book; his upcoming work.

Books Mentioned

These are the books that were mentioned and/or recommended during this episode:

Fight Club: A Novel
Fight Club; Palahniuk, Chuck (Author); English (Publication Language); 224 Pages - 10/17/2005 (Publication Date) - W. W. Norton (Publisher)
$14.95 −$13.61 $1.34
Dead Poets Society
Kleinbaum, N. H. (Author); English (Publication Language); 176 Pages - 09/01/2006 (Publication Date) - Kingswell (Publisher)
Wild: From Lost to Found on the Pacific Crest Trail
102812 Has limited quantity available; Strayed, Cheryl (Author); English (Publication Language)
$16.95 −$2.46 $14.49
Choke: A Novel
Amazon Kindle Edition; Palahniuk, Chuck (Author); English (Publication Language); 305 Pages - 07/30/2002 (Publication Date) - Anchor (Publisher)
Tropic of Cancer (Penguin Modern Classics)
PENGUIN POPULAR CLASSICS; Miller, Henry (Author); English (Publication Language); 256 Pages - 10/28/2020 (Publication Date) - Penguin UK (Publisher)
Breakfast at Tiffany's and Three Stories
Vintage; Capote, Truman (Author); English (Publication Language); 160 Pages - 09/28/1993 (Publication Date) - Vintage (Publisher)
$14.95 −$3.36 $11.59
Vintage; Ephron, Nora (Author); English (Publication Language); 179 Pages - 05/28/1996 (Publication Date) - Vintage (Publisher)
$15.00 −$2.61 $12.39
The Great Gatsby
Great product!; Fitzgerald, F. Scott (Author); English (Publication Language); 180 Pages - 09/30/2004 (Publication Date) - Scribner (Publisher)
$17.00 −$8.10 $8.90
The Paper Chase
Osborn Jr., John Jay (Author); English (Publication Language); 200 Pages - 01/24/2012 (Publication Date) - Peninsula Road Press (Publisher)
Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging
Tribe On Homecoming and Belonging; Hardcover Book; Junger, Sebastian (Author); English (Publication Language)
$22.00 −$7.41 $14.59

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Movies Mentioned

These are the movies that were mentioned and/or recommended during this episode:

An Officer and a Gentleman
Amazon Prime Video (Video on Demand); Richard Gere, Debra Winger, Louis Gossett Jr. (Actors)
No Country For Old Men
Amazon Prime Video (Video on Demand); Javier Bardem, Josh Brolin, Tommy Lee Jones (Actors)
Fight Club
Amazon Prime Video (Video on Demand); Brad Pitt, Edward Norton, Helena Bonham Carter (Actors)
The Hurt Locker
Amazon Prime Video (Video on Demand); Jeremy Renner, Anthony Mackie, Brian Geraghty (Actors)

Last update on 2020-10-27. The above items contain Amazon affiliate links and I will be compensated if you make a purchase after clicking on them. Images from Amazon Product Advertising API.

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