Episode Number: 1133
Episode Guest: Dennis McKenna
Original Airdate: June 21, 2018
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Guest Bio: Dennis McKenna is an ethnopharmacologist, author, and brother to well-known psychedelics proponent Terence McKenna. His new book Ethnopharmacologic Search for Psychoactive Drugs: 50 Years of Research (1967-2017) is available now.
Topics Discussed: Institute of Ecotechnics; Biosphere 2; Ethnopharmacologic Search for Psychoactive Drugs books; Mystic Chemist book; Ayahuasca Reader book; Changing Our Minds book; How to Change Your Mind book; more talk about Ethnopharmacologic Search for Psychoactive Drugs book; The Teachings of Don Juan book; Ethnopharmacologic Search for Psychoactive Drugs symposium; what if psychedelics weren’t made illegal in the 1970s; people are craving spiritually meaningful experiences today; psychedelics are an antidote to faith; Dennis has given up on politics because it’s a flawed system; psychedelics are a catalyst to waking up; How to Change Your Mind book; Michael Pollan talk; psychedelics give us the chance to rethink a lot of things; The Psilocybin Solution book; Magic Mushroom Explorer book; in some sense, psychedelics are scientific instruments to be used for learning and teaching; he’s working on creating an academy of natural philosophy with courses, degrees, conferences, etc.; he’s fascinated by paranormal phenomenon, like UFOs; drug laws shouldn’t be made by politicians; science is slowly opening up to psychedelics; Terence McKenna talk; Dennis talks about the connection between psychedelics and aliens; (1:00:00) Close Encounters of the Third Kind movie; timewave zero; Panspermia; did mushrooms come from space; were octopuses brought to earth on asteroids; DMT entities; tryptophan; DMT is a messenger molecule; DMT is common in nature; phalaris grass; harmine; DYRK1A; more harmine talk; psychedelics and telepathic experiences; anything you experience is real; Whitley Strieber; The Super Natural book; more Whitley Strieber talk; intellectual dishonesty; science is dogma; is DMT a chemical gateway to somewhere; remember the limitations of your knowledge; more DMT talk; Kundalini yoga; Ajna Light discussion; DMT found in the pineal gland of live rats; talk about isolation tanks; he is moving to British Columbia; tetrododoxin; The Serpent and the Rainbow book and movie; (2:00:00) One River book; more talk about creating an academy; people who want to try mushrooms don’t know where to get them; more talk about creating an academy; more ayahuasca talk; developing formulations for ayahuasca depending on the user; Canada legalized marijuana; psychedelics for medical treatments in Canada; Dennis thinks Justin Trudeau has tried DMT; psychedelics are good for vets suffering from PTSD; Dennis wants Joe to bring his family to Peru; Trump is a sociopath; assuming people can’t be “fixed” due to their age; more Trump talk; Melania Trump’s “I don’t really care” jacket; reality is absurd; virtual reality; how would we know if we’re in a simulation; Joe thinks we’re the last wave of biological humans; we’re estranged from nature; technology has no moral dimension; just because we can do something, should we do something; we are very clever but we are not wise; humans are a technological caterpillar; psychedelics are important for giving us a moral compass; more talk about humans evolving into a technological being; are grey aliens humans evolved; humans are flawed; we have to bring wisdom to technology and ensure we’re controlling it and not vice versa.
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