Episode Number: 1034
Episode Guest: Sebastian Junger
Original Airdate: November 6, 2017
Episode Sponsors: Squarespace, Onnit, Blue Apron
Guest Bio: Sebastian Junger is the author of The Perfect Storm, War, and Tribe. He also is the co-director of the Oscar-nominated documentary Restrepo. His latest documentary Hell On Earth: The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS can been seen on NatGeo.
Topics Discussed: He uses a flip phone and has never owned a smart phone; phone and social media addiction doesn’t bring happiness; Google Pixel 2 XL phone; link between social media and suicide; growing up without the internet; the future and blending of man and machine; humans are unnecessary; Tribe book; need for community and consequences; we need one another less to survive; lack of community; not knowing your neighbors; the suburbs are crushing; Joe says a lot of his neighbors are on pills; catastrophe wakes people up; how can we have modern society with community; social media is like fast food; community and doing difficult things; hunting; boxing; doing things where you’re evaluated for your behavior/actions; people aren’t supposed to work in an office; artificial intelligence and inequality; humans will evolve; survival value; video games; sports; esports; talk about writing his Tribe book; soldiers and community; escaping society; people who were kidnapped wanting to stay with their captors; nothing superficial matters during a catastrophe; PTSD; freeloaders; people who lie about fighting in a war; egalitarianism; the need for trust and community; watching war movies; The Matrix movies; common themes/narratives in movies; movies are playing out ancient archetypes; story about miners trapped in a mine; gender roles and leadership; (1:00:00) we need both conservatism and liberalism; the left and the right; political tribes; Our Political Nature book; inheriting political beliefs; managing conflict; introduce a threat to create strength within a group; there’s no good political party right now; we need a bipartisan committee in congress; it’s the perfect time for a third party; the two parties have become like cartels; political parties need to respect one another; did Trump really believe his Obama birther conspiracy claims; Trump has moral courage; Obama was presidential; we need someone who genuinely wants to unify the country; we need a leader to overcome toxic thinking; does he have a solution for the issues discussed in his Tribe book; contempt; the worst of Trump’s behavior; Woody Harrelson’s dinner with Trump made him smoke weed to calm himself; Joe hopes a hero will rise from Trump’s presidency; the more you sacrifice something the more you value it; the military creates an American identity; incentivising joining the military; in Australia you get fined if you don’t vote; where does our tax money go; the government does things for us; talk about joining a group and feeling like a part of a community while writing his book; find a collective experience; Joe talks again about the importance of doing difficult things; doing things with consequences; creating things; doing things successfully feels good; being an outcast feels bad; the arts binds community; generosity feels good; sharing creativity; musicians on stage; finishing and releasing his books; watching people react to his movies; books vs. movies; talk about his Hell On Earth: The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS documentary; Syria was too dangerous for him to visit; immigrants are just people trying to escape war; becoming numb to mass shootings; mass shootings happen in small, quiet communities and never happen in the inner cities; mass shootings and psych drugs; (2:00:00) video games and mass shootings; Active Shooter: America Under Fire TV show; why are there no shootings in poorer communities/inner cities; it’s hard for Americans to ask why we’re the only country with so many mass shootings; why is America in so much pain; mass shootings are a cry for help; the lack of communal connection could be the common denominator between shootings.
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