Episode Number: 1006
Episode Guest: Jordan Peterson and Bret Weinstein
Original Airdate: September 1, 2017
Episode Sponsors: Onnit, DraftKings, ZipRecruiter
Guest Bio: Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist and tenured professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. You can check out all Dr. Peterson’s self-improvement writing programs at SelfAuthoring.com. Bret Weinstein is a biology professor at Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. Currently he is in the middle of an intense controversy that has been documented by The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and several other mainstream media outlets. Sign up for a free crash course on evolutionary thinking at The Evolutionary Lens.
Topics Discussed: Whose idea it was to do the podcast; what’s going on with Bret and Evergreen College today; postmodernism and power; Jordan has been called a Nazi; the swastika Nazi symbol; Che Guevara; Charlottesville protests; tyranny is the endgame of prosperity; racial identity and tribalism; evolution; political belief and personality; infectious diseases and authoritarian beliefs; Hitler’s Table Talk book; limits of potential behavior; the future could be better or worse; positive feedback loops; importance of conversation; everyone has the capacity for great evil; free and open communication is important; YouTube thinks Gad Saad’s videos are objectionable; biological essentialism; biology isn’t politically correct; Bret says it’s impossible for male genes to gang up on female genes; populations/races can gang up on others; Canada’s C-16 bill; we need freedom from our biology; aggressive boys; James Damore’s Google memo; women are more agreeable than men; agreeable people make less money; menopause; more Google memo talk; we’re in an unstable situation; people need to be careful about what they think or say; Pepe the frog memes aren’t always racist; Kekistan; Jordan gave his dad a Kekistan flag; (1:00:00) Jordan accidentally wore a frog hat in one of his videos; people need to struggle and overcome difficulties; collectivist movements can’t see forward; free speech; Genius book; tormented people are creative; Maps of Meaning book; the way of the heroic individual; Jordan is doing biblical lectures; Abraham stories from the bible; Jordan and Sam Harris on truth; ideas that aren’t true; literal falseness and metaphorical truth; archetypes and myths; the story of Pinocchio; Carl Jung; archetype of Jesus Christ; no religion is up-to-date with technology; religious myths; what if God wrote the Ten Commandments today; more talk about truth and fact; truths you can’t understand yet; dietary restrictions and religion; facts; wisdom; stories continue through time for a reason; The Odyssey book; postmodernism and Marxism; capitalism and socialism; human creativity; popularity; econophysics; what makes people successful; it’s hard to get money when you have none; people who start with nothing; success and motivation; we are wired to discover opportunities; inequality and innovation; inequality drives crime; resources need to be funneled down to the people who have nothing; (2:00:00) universal basic income; men need something to do; the Armed Forces has an IQ minimum; inequality of wealth and opportunity; some of the rich are fixing the game; 2008 economic collapse; why some have more than others; all inequality isn’t due to oppression and power; what fraction of the economy is crooked; universities and equality; not all businessmen are evil; Jordan’s ties with business schools; making a profit on things that aren’t being monitored; why tech companies are seen as not evil; how Google evolved into amorality; not all entities are businesses; markets shouldn’t tell us what to want; freedom breeds inequality; the two best success predictors are intelligence and conscientiousness; not all smart, hard-working people are successful; differences in IQ; kids and the Head Start program; IQs of twins who are separated and live different lives; a system based on merit produces inequality; making it safe to fail; there are more entrepreneurs in Canada than the US; Jordan thinks the US health care system is better than in Canada; Adam Ruins Everything TV show episode “Adam Ruins the Hospital”; Joe turns the discussion towards Hitler; Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History podcast episode “Wrath of the Khans”; Bret says Adolf Hitler is a monster, but a rational one; Jordan says Hitler was intelligent, charismatic, and artistic; Hitler didn’t succeed in what he set out to do, but he didn’t fail; what Hitler wanted to do is lurking in our genes; Trump played upon these genes to become president; Jordan says Trump should have denounced the alt-right racists and white supremacists, but Bret thinks we should have expected his response; Trump didn’t condemn Virginia neo-Nazis; not all Trump supporters are racist, but all racists are Trump supporters; Faith Goldy fired from The Rebel; Louis Theroux’s The Most Hated Family in America documentary; more Faith Goldy talk; W. Kamau Bell meeting with the KKK; why Jordan is accused of being far right; you can be anti radical left without being far right; Joe talks again about Pepe the frog memes and being called a Nazi on Twitter; not all racist memes are from racists; Mickey Mouse and racism; more Pepe frog talk.
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