The Joe Rogan Experience Episode 940 with Sam Harris and Dan Harris

Episode Number: 940
Episode Guest: Sam Harris and Dan Harris
Original Airdate: April 4, 2017
Episode Sponsors: Onnit, Charlotte’s Web Hemp, MVMT Watches, Caveman Coffee

Guest Bio: Sam Harris is a neuroscientist and author of the New York Times bestsellers The End of Faith, Letter to a Christian Nation, and The Moral Landscape. Dan Harris is a correspondent for ABC News, an anchor for Nightline and co-anchor for the weekend edition of Good Morning America. Dan is also the founder, author, and host of the book/app/podcast called 10% Happier.

Topics Discussed: Sam and Dan aren’t related; Joe is weirded out by life; Dan had a panic attack while live on the news; what caused his panic attack; Dan was doing ecstasy and cocaine; cocaine is making a comeback; Joe tells the story about someone he knows doing cocaine; Dan was addicted to the adrenaline of covering the war; The Hurt Locker movie; journalist friends he lost in the war; what war is like; what people like about war; war is a drug; how he recovered from drug addiction; Adderall; we are always looking for another hit of dopamine; caffeine; lots of things change the chemistry of the brain; antidepressants and SSRIs; stimulating the brain with electrodes; neural lace; Snapchat glasses; Google Glass; we’re always surrounded by cameras today; access to information today; self-driving cars; man sleeping while his Tesla drives itself video; Pokemon Go; the future with self-driving cars; humans are flawed; artificial intelligence; consciousness; could the internet become conscious; everything we build has goals; goals of artificial intelligence; how AI should be built; concerns with AI; AI could build its own AI that’s like a God; talk about the creation of the atom bomb; Oppenheimer quotes the Bhagavad Gita after the first nuclear explosion video; Manhattan Project and Trinity nuclear test; taking existential risks to create new technology; Joe is terrified of AI; our dependence on the internet; Snapchat filters; kids and technology; (1:00:00) it’s easy to fake audio and video today; fixing fake news; fake sign language interpreter on stage with Obama; White House intruder; the wrong envelope was given at the Oscars; robots/computers are more reliable than people will ever be; more talk about the creation of the atomic bomb; more AI talk; intelligence solves all our problems; meditation; what will people do with their free time in the future; the smart phone has made it impossible to be bored; boredom is the inability to pay attention to anything; people prefer electric shocks to being alone with their thoughts; pros and cons of social media; arguing with people on Twitter; Andy Kindler hates Sam; Sam talks about Hunter Maats; people find others on social media with their same views; flat earth truthers; confirmation bias; more talk about social media; Joe tries not to pay attention to the trolls online; admitting mistakes; wanting the truth to win; the antidote to fake news; being caught lying needs to be devastating; dishonesty; Trump threatens war with North Korea; Trump can’t be trusted but can be trusted to lie; it’s important to have a varied media diet; NY Times is rededicated to the truth; the media was biased about the election; Dan talks about anchoring the news during the election; the electoral collage; the idea of a president is outdated; Trump is realizing the limits of his power as president; Trump’s rollback of pollution standards; climate change and pollution; Porsche 911 Turbo’s exhaust is cleaner than Los Angeles’ air; talk about coal; (2:00:00) universal basic income; wealth and equality; we shouldn’t be held hostage to the idea that coal miners need jobs; dirty technology is incentivized; we’re addicted to fossil fuels; Merchants of Doubt documentary; Trump said climate change is a hoax created by China; China’s air pollution is travelling to the US; calling out Trump’s lies makes you seem anti-Trump; we need unbiased facts; over-the-air antennas; network television news talk; lots of people still get their news from network television; Dan interviewed Alex Jones; Joe and Alex running around in masks while high video; Alex acts different when he’s not on camera; Alex Jones was right about agent provocateur police officers; Operation Northwoods; Gulf of Tonkin incident; Susan Rice called for unmasking of Trump; more talk about news outlets; who should be president in the future; the presidential election is a popularity contest; the country has seen times of more division; what if something big (like 9/11) happens while Trump is president; Trump is a selfish con man with a reliably bad moral compass; Nixon wasn’t as bad as Trump; Trump’s motives are self-involved; more shitting on Trump; Eliot Spitzer; prostitution; Sam thinks Mike Pence is better than Trump; meditation; Joe meditates by doing yoga and going in his isolation tank; Joe explains floating to Dan; metacognition; how Dan meditates; meditating can change the brain; Joe talks about eating edibles and climbing in the tank; talk about eating marijuana; more talk about floating and dissolving sensory input; goals of meditation; Sam talks about meditation; pain, sensations, and psychological suffering; (3:00:00) Dan talks about anger and meditation; Sam and Dan both have meditation apps; using meditation to stop overeating; meditation apps; failing to concentrate; learning how to meditate; meditating is like doing bicep curls for the mind; meditation can reduce stress.

My Thoughts: Dan’s drug addiction. Artificial intelligence and the future. Social media. Trump and the election. Pollution and climate change. News and fake news. More Trump talk. Meditation and isolation tanks. Thankfully there’s no talk about religion.

Podcast Video: Below is a video of The Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode #940 available for streaming via YouTube.

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The Joe Rogan Experience Episode 804 with Sam Harris

Episode Number: 804
Episode Guest: Sam Harris
Original Airdate: June 1, 2016
Episode Sponsors: Phoodie, Onnit, Caveman Coffee

Guest Bio: Sam Harris is a neuroscientist and author of the New York Times bestsellers The End of Faith, Letter to a Christian Nation, and The Moral Landscape. His podcast called Waking Up is available on iTunes and Stitcher.

Topics Discussed: Sam stopped eating meat but doesn’t feel healthy; Joe talks about good cholesterol and fats; dietary cholesterol isn’t bad for you and helps with testosterone production; Joe talks about his chickens; growing grain displaces animals and farming grain kills animals; people find laboratory-grown meat creepy; would vegans go back to eating meat if it was grown in a lab; vegans get mad at you if you go back to eating meat; vegans revolt against owners of vegan restaurants after they start eating meat; there’s no veganism in the bible; ag-gag laws; drone footage of a pig farm video; Eating Animals book; talk about factory chicken farming; no one cares about chicken or fish; woman rescued lobster and returned it to the sea; pain responses; mushrooms are closer to humans than plants; Joe talks again about plant intelligence; justification for killing something that’s living; Joe said being in a marijuana grow op felt like being in a room of people; how far down does consciousness go; panpsychism; do plants grow better if you play music or sing to them; Joe talks about how doing drugs feels like someone is there; DMT is in everything; mice brains contain DMT; the third-eye and pineal gland; talk about meditation and vision; eyewitness testimony and false memories; India murder case where people were convicted based on brain scans; more talk about memory; idea of losing control of our thoughts; being able to read thoughts and tell when someone is lying and how it will affect the criminal justice system; people who confess to crimes they didn’t commit; Sam tells a story about a false confession which resulted in a man going to prison; watching hallucinations take place in schizophrenics; people are kept awake during brain surgery; talk about how stimulating certain areas of the brain can make people feel like they’re having an out-of-body experience or feel things when they aren’t being touched; Radiolab podcast episode “9-Volt Nirvana”; transcranial magnetic stimulation; Sam talks about how much we know about the brain; more brain and intelligence/artificial intelligence talk; will the first artificial life we create be zombie cows for harvesting their meat; creating artificial people; more artificial meat talk; creating spare parts for humans; how much different will people and life be 1,000 years from now; Sam speculates about how we might be 1,000 years from now; Joe says that grey aliens are humans in the future; Sam talks about David Deutsch‘s thoughts on knowledge and creating anything out of atoms; the horizon of knowledge extends without limit; the future will be far less recognizable than any other point in human history; more talk about what we could do in the future by building using atoms; how far special effects in movies have progressed and where we could go in the future; talk about how humans learned to fly; things could quickly get strange in the future; the CDC is more worried about real diseases than man-made diseases; MRSA has doctors scared; there is no incentive for the government to create antibiotics; Joe talks about how Ari Shaffir had staph infection; Kevin Randleman’s staph infection pictures; Jamie says his ex-girlfriend got staph on her face and it almost spread to her brain; we need to produce the next generation of antibiotics quicker; hospitals have become cesspools and 200,000 people die from filthy doctors/nurses and equipment in hospitals; only the NICU in hospitals does hand washing properly; MRSA was created by resistance to medications that got stronger; talk about antibiotic use on animals and its effect on humans; infectious disease comes from animals; more talk about diseases and viruses; Toxoplasmosis; Alzheimer’s disease could be the result of the brain’s response to something that invaded the blood-brain barrier; Ronald Reagan and Alzheimer’s; Vincent “The Chin” Gigante; Robert Sapolsky on Toxoplasmosis; Microsoft’s software for predictive policing; Microsoft’s Twitter AI bot turns racist; guy in Tesla falls asleep while his car drives in autopilot mode; giving up your privacy for safety; if someone talks enough, you know who they are; talk about Donald Trump and how much he changes his mind and lies; talk about the political candidates and how each candidate has terrible points; Hillary Clinton is shrill, a liar, and an opportunist; Man Enough to Vote for Hillary ad campaign is fake; Trump might win because he puts on a great show; Trump is a stick to jam in the wheel of the system; more talk about Trump; Trump says nothing intelligent; Trump wanting to deport immigrants; Trump was a birther; Trump is pandering; Trump calls Bill Clinton a rapistTrump doesn’t believe in man-made climate change; it’s taboo to change your mind; Trump is dropping nuclear bombs of craziness; the system is fucked up and needs to be reworked; Trump running for president is worse than Tony Robbins running for president; journalists are astonished by the things Trump says; Trump fundraising for veterans; Trump mocks reporter with disability video; Ted Cruz coaches his family through ad campaign video; talk about Trump and religion; you have to pretend to believe in God to be president; Trump could be our first atheist president; who could be the best president; talk about the good points of the candidates; Trump is just winging it; Trump is a wake-up call for the political establishment; Trump keeps changing his positions; maybe Trump is trolling everyone; we need smart people to optimize the system; Trump comparisons to Hitler; Hitler in Homes and Gardens magazine; what would Trump do if he had more power than anyone else in the world; heavyweight boxing talk; big athletes go to football and basketball rather than boxing or MMA; there are no heavyweights coming from Asia; many boxers come from poor countries, and poor countries don’t have big people; Johnny Tapia; talk about movement and lighter weight classes; talk about Demetrious “Mighty Mouse” Johnson and his movement; you can’t move like a flyweight if you’re a heavyweight; air resistance and surface area; what if a human had chimp strength; talk about the Harambe gorilla situation; it should be impossible for a child to get into a gorilla enclosure; primates look tortured in zoos; how to preserve extinct species; bushmeat; Steve Rinella shot and ate a monkey; growing human meat in a lab to eat; human meat and animal meat isn’t different on a cellular level; pregnancy; China’s one-child policy; pregnancy crises around the world; more adult diapers are sold in China than baby diapers; will we figure out a way to eliminate poverty; how artificial intelligence and technology could potentially solve poverty; anything can be done if it follows the laws of physics; Google’s Computer Go artificial intelligence; perfect AI could destroy humanity; will AI make humans obsolete; AI could usher in a world like The Matrix; Neil deGrasse Tyson isn’t worried about artificial intelligence; super intelligent AI is probably 50-100 years away; people underestimate how much technology can improve in 10 years; some people think our role is to give birth to mechanical Gods; everyone is racing each other in developing technology; we will build the next species that is more important than we are; can we build unconscious super-intelligent AI; if intelligence is just information processing, will will build something super-intelligent; it’s scary to think that humans will be in control of super-AI; we need to merge with machines; imagining Donald Trump making decisions about AI and our future; the movie Her is not that far off from becoming a reality; Ex Machina movie; could there be autistic AI or smart and dumb artificial intelligence; common sense won’t be in AI unless we build it in there.

My Thoughts: Talk about vegans and meat. Artificial intelligence and technology, diseases and politics. A little boxing and fighting talk towards the end, then more talk about meat and AI/technology. I thought this would be a bore, but it was fairly interesting despite being somewhat of a chore to get through due to its length.

Podcast Video: Below is a video of The Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode #804 available for streaming via YouTube.

Podcast Audio: Audio for this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience podcast is available through iTunes, Stitcher, or you can download the MP3 directly to add it to the audio player of your choice.