Episode Number: 1058
Episode Guest: Nina Teicholz
Original Airdate: December 28, 2017
Episode Sponsors: Square Cash, Texture
Guest Bio: Nina Teicholz is an investigative journalist and author of The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat, and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet.
Topics Discussed: Talk about her book The Big Fat Surprise; her book came out before it was revealed that the sugar industry shifted the blame to fat; much of nutrition science is funded by the food industry; early scientists truly believed saturated fat caused heart disease; scientists fall in love with their beliefs; the sugar industry found people who had beliefs that lined up with what they were trying to sell; scientists should behave in a principled way; people are willing to put their health in trouble for mouth pleasure; it’s hard to eat a high fat/low carb diet when you’re a vegan; it’s hard to stay healthy as a vegan because vitamins/minerals/nutrients aren’t absorbed the same way compared to meat; she was a vegetarian for 25 years; iron; liver; eggs; some vitamins/minerals/nutrients are not easily found in plant foods; cholesterol is necessary; she talks about why she became a vegetarian; she was more fat as a vegetarian than she is now; protein and fat are satiating foods; your body craves what it needs despite how much junk food you eat, which is why you remain hungry after binging on bad food; burning fat vs. burning glucose; when living off glucose, your body doesn’t know how to burn your fat for fuel; we have fat on our bodies stored for fuel; 450 lb. man fasted for over a year; intermittent fasting; your body will always prefer burning glucose instead of fat; eat inside of a 10-hour window and then eat low carb/high fat during that time; talk about how we were misinformed to think fat was bad, leading us to increase our consumption of carbs; “What if It’s All Been a Big Fat Lie” article; it’s still considered heresy in science to research the low carb diet; the low carb diet is the best thing for diabetes and improves risk factors for heart disease; there are too many interests in government, the establishment, and companies in not recognizing the low carb diet; American Heart Association (AHA) recommends limiting saturated fats; epidemiology; the government did clinical testing and discovered that a high fat diet did not lead to a premature heart-related death; Minnesota Coronary Experiment; the AHA is protecting its incorrect past statements; we have a national recommended diet that’s not based on good evidence; issues with the What the Health documentary; there’s no evidence that a vegan diet is good for the health; Joe talks again about how grain combines kill animals; humans are not herbivores; it’s hard for omnivore animals to live as herbivores; meat alternatives created in laboratories; motivations for people to go vegan; we’re a divided nation; (1:00:00) she talks about touring America and giving talks in the middle of the US where our food is grown; people love to be on sides and talk shit about the other side; militant vegans are vicious; people are passionate about their food choices; people become religious about their food; the good thing about being vegan is that it takes people off the typical American diet of processed foods; humans evolved because of meat; stoned ape theory; historically, meat was seen as something to make us stronger; vegan bodybuilders and steroids; how her research changed her thinking; she’s a liberal democrat; she is cautious of big government programs because it’s hard for institutions to change their views; what’s happening in our politics is happening in our science; nutrition science is in bad shape and is manipulated by financial, professional, and intellectual interests; talk about what she’s working on; salt and the DASH sodium study; moderate consumption of salt is good.
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