Episode Number: 1105
Episode Guest: Michael Hunter
Original Airdate: April 17, 2018
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Guest Bio: Michael Hunter is the chef and owner of Antler Kitchen in Toronto.
Topics Discussed: Protesters at his restaurant; Michael explains the controversy; there are both meat and vegan dishes on the menu of the restaurant; the sign “venison is the new kale” set vegans off and led to protests; they’ve protested the restaurant eight times; he promotes ethical farming of animals, the vegans do not agree; people become tribal leading to ideological battlegrounds; people who eat meat should kill an animal; factory farming is bad; Food Inc. documentary; vegans don’t see the big picture; some animals need to be harvested; Texas’ issues with wild pigs; deer in New York state; Lyme disease; Jim Miller’s Lyme disease medication; axis deer in Hawaii; hunting for food vs. trophy hunting; geese are a big problem for farmers; driftless area; people in cities don’t live in the real world; Pittman-Robertson Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act; hunters give more money than anyone to wildlife conservation; killing an animal is humbling; all wild animals will die; wild animals don’t die humane deaths in the wild; nothing compares to food you’ve grown or killed yourself; some vegans are idiots; Cafe Gratitude’s return to meat sparks vegan uproar; most vegans are vegans for the right reasons; Michael has tried eating vegan but never feels full; Joe thinks hunting is psychedelic; eating meat has made humans who we are today; we need to keep the populations of wolves and bears in check; more ranting about factory farming; Joel Salatin’s Polyface Farms; Michael talks about where his meat is sourced from; pigs vs. wild boars; pigs eat farmers sometimes; Joe talks about wild pigs in California; Joe tells the story (again…) of how William Randolph Hearst helped make hemp illegal; pigs are destructive and dangerous; Michael didn’t hunt until he was in his 20s; he talks about hunting turkey for the first time and then tasting the wild meat; it’s snowing in Toronto still; Michael loves California; deer in California; there are lots of animals to hunt in California; the mountain lion problem in California; land doesn’t belong to the animals; harvesting grain on farms kills animals; Steve Rinella MeatEater podcast episode talking about a scary bear encounter; Michael talks about getting scared by a deer; hunting in Canada; coyotes; Joe talks about his chickens and his coyote problem; chickens eat mice; Joe tells the story of feeding a mouse to his chickens; (they watch videos of chickens eating mice); birds are ruthless; people don’t want to understand nature, they just want to believe their ideology; vegans are eating too many carbs; health issues with following a vegan diet; vitamins and nutrients that are hard to get from a vegan diet; importance of getting bloodwork done; (1:00:00) Joe suggests vegans consume algae; most vegans are B12 deficient; Chris Kresser; eating organ meat; Alexander Gustafsson hunts his own meat; humans have evolved as meat eaters; different regions require different diets; wild game meat vs. factory farm meat; he picks his own mushrooms; morel mushrooms; Paul Stamets; Know Your Mushrooms documentary; amanita muscaria mushrooms; Joe explains the connection between mushrooms and Christmas; The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross book; The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth book; more mushroom talk; “chicken of the woods” mushroom; mushrooms are more similar to humans than plants; Joe explains the stoned ape theory; how Michael got into cooking; how his restaurant Antler Kitchen came about; recipes; he brought Joe some maple syrup; how maple syrup is made; cooking the food of the Canadian indigenous people; Nunavut; using cedar wood in his cooking; there are rules for serving game meat in restaurants, but not for forged vegetables; we don’t understand plant intelligence; plants can communicate; vegans should eat mollusks and eggs; organic eggs vs. factory farm eggs; the vegans called him a murderer; crazy vegan goes into restaurant yelling about her chicken video; if people don’t agree with him, they should talk to him about it; vegan cat owners; vegans want him to put a sign in his restaurant saying that he kills animals; talk about his restaurant’s success; talk about travelling the world cooking; vegans want him to change; Joe talks about how he got into hunting; nothing goes to waste when Michael hunts; cooking deer neck meat; vegans don’t leave room for reason; some vegans support him and eat at his restaurant; more talk about Antler Kitchen; Joe is going to give him some meat.
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