The Joe Rogan Experience Episode 995 with Jon Ronson

Episode Number: 995
Episode Guest: Jon Ronson
Original Airdate: August 8, 2017
Episode Sponsors: Squarespace, LegalZoom, Onnit

Guest Bio: Jon Ronson is a writer and documentary filmmaker whose works include the best-selling The Men Who Stare at Goats. Check out his new special podcast called The Butterfly Effect with Jon Ronson on

Topics Discussed: His research in the porn world following Fabian Thylmann (PornHub); banks don’t like people in the porn industry; how the porn industry changed from pay to free; there was no bailout for the porn industry; talk about pirated porn on streaming video sites; tech people have created an amoral bubble around themselves; Metropolis movie; porn videos today are named after popular search terms; people only want to see teens and milfs in porn; many porn stars are escorts; Jon’s article on “bespoke porn”; talk about a stamp collector who pays porn stars to destroy his collection on video; more talk about strange bespoke/custom porn videos; radical honesty groups; shame of liking sex/porn; porn stars have to be happy/positive on social media; how people act when anonymous online; virtue signalling; The Black Witch book and fictional racists; So You Think You’ve Been Publically Shamed book; Jon’s been told not to write people of color because it could be seen as cultural appropriation; Trump was elected because people have gone so far left; talk about Trump and his tweeting; Twitter is infecting our culture; Megan Phelps-Roper talk; Jon thinks Twitter is mad at him; Justine Sacco talk; Twitter’s trust and safety council; harassment vs. criticism; women bully men more online; people think there’s good in shaming people; people are mad at Joe and think he’s right wing; (1:00:00) a lot of what Obama did was right wing, but did a lot of left wing things too; Jon talks about trying to work with Alex Jones to investigate the right wing world; is there a connection between Alex Jones and Trump; talk about when Jon was with Alex Jones at Bohemian Grove; The Men Who Stare at Goats book; more talk about the strange Bohemian Grove rituals; Skull and Bones; Alex Jones and Megyn Kelly interview; The Elephant in the Room book; people look for conspiracies everywhere; Alex Jones leaks audio of Megyn Kelly interview; Megyn Kelly said Santa Claus is white on TV; television is an antiquated form of interviewing people; talk about the Alex Jones podcast; Alex has a conspiracy theory template; goats that produce spider silk; Kathy Griffin Trump beheading photo; (Jamie plays some clips of Alex Jones ranting); Trump wanted Glenn Beck to work with him before contacting Alex Jones; Alex is goofy and entertaining and is really smart; Alex uncovered agent provocateurs in the US at the WTO protests; Jon talks about the Ruby Ridge incident and the documentary he made The Legend of Ruby Ridge; Jewish people are both a race and part of a religion; Jon is an atheist; talk about Jon’s book Them: Adventures with Extremists; Alex Jones in the ’90s compared to him now; Joey Diaz goes crazy on Alex Jones’ show video; Alex Jones’ lawsuit with Chobani yogurt; Jon talks about working with remote viewers; Remote Viewers book; Jon talks about writing The Men Who Stare at Goats book; talk about seeing a video where a hamster died from a guy who was staring at it; they watch a video of John and some military guy doing martial arts moves on him(2:00:00) Joe talks about how martial arts demonstrations are a joke; there was a lot of fake martial arts in the 1980s; Joe talks about doing remote viewing for his TV show; Heaven’s Gate religious group; Jon was shown a video of a guy karate chopping a goat; The Men Who Stare at Goats movie; dim mak; MMA fighter fights Tai Chi master video; old man fights MMA fighter video; gay bomb and other crazy military ideas; subliminal messages in videos; Guantanamo Bay would play Fleetwood Mac cover bands to torture prisoners; Joe explains War Machine to Jon; MMA and brain trauma; what type of people are attracted to doing MMA; 110 out of 111 NFL players have CTE; Jon Ronson’s article on Chris Benoit; he loved working with the people in the porn industry; PornHub has sex education for teens; Joe talks about seeing porn in the woods when he was a kid; stories about children who become sex offenders; porn is getting more extreme today; incest porn is one of the most popular subgenres; it’s rare for people who participate in the porn industry to be treated like regular people; Joe talks about how a writer on NewsRadio was writing porn on the side and having sex with porn stars; Joe talks about going to a porn movie set in 1994; why is it so shameful for people to do porn; porn stars are likely to get fired from their jobs after they leave the porn industry because of the internet.

Books Mentioned

These are the books that were mentioned and/or recommended during this episode:

The Black Witch: An Epic Fantasy Novel (The Black Witch Chronicles)
HARLEQUIN TEEN; Hardcover Book; Forest, Laurie (Author); English (Publication Language); 608 Pages - 05/02/2017 (Publication Date) - Harlequin Teen (Publisher)
$20.99 −$4.62 $16.37
So You've Been Publicly Shamed
So You ve Been Publicly Shamed; Ronson, Jon (Author); English (Publication Language); 336 Pages - 03/29/2016 (Publication Date) - Riverhead Books (Publisher)
$17.00 −$4.38 $12.62
Elephant in the Room, The
Jon Ronson (Author); English (Publication Language); 01/31/2017 (Publication Date) - Audible Studios on Brilliance Audio (Publisher)
Them: Adventures with Extremists
Simon Schuster; Ronson, Jon (Author); English (Publication Language); 336 Pages - 01/07/2003 (Publication Date) - Simon & Schuster (Publisher)
$18.00 −$1.00 $17.00
Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies
ISBN13: 9780440614050; Condition: New; Schnabel, Jim (Author); English (Publication Language)
$23.00 −$3.30 $19.70

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Movies Mentioned

These are the movies that were mentioned and/or recommended during this episode:

The Men Who Stare At Goats
Factory sealed DVD; George Clooney, Ewan McGregor, Kevin Spacey (Actors); Grant Heslov (Director)
The Complete Metropolis [Blu-ray]
Factory sealed DVD; Brigitte Helm, Alfred Abel, Gustav Fröhlich (Actors); Fritz Lang (Director) - Fritz Lang (Writer) - Erich Pommer (Producer)

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