Guest Bio: Jocko Willink is a decorated retired Navy SEAL officer, author of the books Way of the Warrior Kid: From Wimpy to Warrior the Navy SEAL Way and Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, and co-founder of Echelon Front, where he is a leadership instructor, speaker, and executive coach. His podcast, The Jocko Podcast, is also available for download via Apple Podcasts and Stitcher.
Topics Discussed: Chris Cornell’s suicide; suicide talk; poor people are less likely to kill themselves; successful people can feel hopeless; Joe likes to struggle; Jocko’s Instagram pictures of his watch; getting up early to exercise; overcoming obstacles feels good; Tim Ferriss thought about suicide; teenage suicide and affluenza; breaking/gaining momentum; importance of a good, healthy diet; make the right decision on little things, like choosing water over a Coke; Joe thinks it’s in our DNA to struggle; learning Brazilian Jiu Jitsu feels good and is powerful; choosing smart training partners for BJJ; Joe talks about his kids doing BJJ; boys naturally want to wrestle each other; lots of nerds do BJJ; more BJJ talk; teaching and leadership; leadership and the military; Tim Kennedy re-enlisted with the Army; civilians and the military; Vietnam War; war is awful and innocent people die; Bush barred photos of coffins of dead soldiers; Jocko thinks the horrors of war should be exposed to everyone; people want to understand war; will war ever not exist; robot warfare; Boston Dynamics robots; why do robots look like humans; Google Assistant talk; technology advancing means we won’t have to struggle as much; more talk about the importance of exercise; fat people riding scooters; Joe explains CRISPR; genetic editing and reversing aging; (1:00:00) daredevils climb Golden Gate Bridge; Jocko talks about doing pull-ups hanging off a boat; why do people want to hang off things; James Kingston; more talk about daredevils hanging off things; James Kingston talk; women could hang off things longer than men on Fear Factor; size and the point of diminishing returns; Cain Velasquez talk; fighters and injuries; Fedor Emelianenko talk; Fedor and kettlebells picture; Kazushi Sakuraba talk; John Danaher’s Instagram; guys who are good in the gym; wrestlers transitioning to BJJ; the ability to compete; can you train to deal with the stress of competition; getting trapped in your own mind; if you win, you win, if you lose, you learn; iron sharpens iron; Jocko gets his ass kicked by someone who’s only been training BJJ for six months; strength of wrestlers; wrestlers who don’t do well at MMA; finding good people to train with; creative fighters; people doing amazing things makes you realize amazing things are possible; Conor McGregor talk; McGregor coming back from defeat to beat Nate Diaz; McGregor had staph infection before his first fight with Nate Diaz; McGregor signed contract to fight Mayweather; Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. talk; Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Tony Ferguson canceled; Khabib’s weight issues; CSAC’s new weight-cutting regulations; there should be more weight classes in the UFC; Georges St-Pierre vs. Michael Bisping talk; Yoel Romero vs. Tim Kennedy talk; BJJ with MMA gloves; Joe thinks MMA should be fought without gloves and wraps; Tank Abbott was the first guy to wear gloves; Vitor Belfort talk; how MMA has progressed; Tai Chi vs. MMA fighter video; flat earth conspiracy theory; BJJ isn’t magic; people want something to believe in; people love shortcuts and mysteries; Heaven’s Gate; the mind works in peculiar ways and is malleable; people don’t want to change what they believe in; Joe talks about learning martial arts; accepting and understanding new information; communism and socialism; distribution of wealth; how to eliminate poverty; people don’t work hard when they’re given things; (2:00:00) discipline equals freedom; universal basic income discussion; self-driving cars and trucks; Joe thinks humans need to overcome obstacles; people need physical and mental challenges; why he wrote his new book Way of the Warrior Kid: From Wimpy to Warrior the Navy SEAL Way; Jocko tells a story about a kid in his book; teaching his daughter math; overcoming fear; helping his daughter overcome stage fright; stepping outside of your comfort zone; more talk about his book; do something you suck at and get better at it; Joe talks about running; talk about exercise and pull-ups; Jocko’s exercise routine; writing down his exercises; strength and conditioning; Jocko never takes time off from exercising; Jocko listens to hardcore like Cro-Mags; Harley Flanagan; Jocko’s podcast with Harley; talk about Jocko’s podcast; My Lai massacre; Rwanda genocide; understanding and facing the dark side of life; Jordan Peterson talk; warrior mentality; Joe talks about how his podcast has changed his life; shared experiences through podcasting; podcasting is powerful; old radio shows; Dr. Demento; more talk about Jocko’s podcast and the freedom of podcasting; podcasting educates you about other peoples’ thought processes; podcasting fills a hole in communication; it’s okay to have “man thoughts” in a podcast; kids need to learn life is hard; interesting people had fucked up childhoods; if you’re helping your kids, you’re hurting them; competitive sports and martial arts are important; Jocko’s daughter wrestles; more Jordan Peterson talk; talk about social justice warriors; things are weird today because of a lack of true struggle; people want to be part of a tribe; people attacking Jocko on social media; get obsessed with improving your life.
My Thoughts: Motivational podcast about improving yourself. Lots of talk about BJJ, MMA, podcasting, and other manly subjects. Worth a listen.
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